FILE 84 / 5 September 2018 / 146 MIN / full

Sadistic Isn't Sexually Transmitted

Red Wing, MinnesotaListen

The town

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It's Red Wing, Minnesota, in the southeastern part of Minnesota; Goodhue County, this town lies in, zip code 55066, area code 651. about 0:10:04

History, in brief

Town note

The town was named after a Dakota Sioux chief, Red Wing; the name means wing of the wild swan dyed red.

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Town note

Dakota chiefs used the name Red Wing and a dyed swan's wing as the symbol of their rank.

about 0:12:19

1812

This particular chief was an ally of the British soldiers in the War of 1812.

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1889

The federal government established an Indian reservation in 1889 along the Mississippi River, to free up land for new settlers.

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All 21 history facts

Town note

The town was named after a Dakota Sioux chief, Red Wing; the name means wing of the wild swan dyed red.

about 0:11:14

Town note

Dakota chiefs used the name Red Wing and a dyed swan's wing as the symbol of their rank.

about 0:12:19

1812

This particular chief was an ally of the British soldiers in the War of 1812.

about 0:12:32

1889

The federal government established an Indian reservation in 1889 along the Mississippi River, to free up land for new settlers.

about 0:13:37

Town note

The city of Red Wing developed around the community; in the 1850s Mississippi River steamboats brought people who settled and farmed there.

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1873

In 1873 Red Wing led the country in the amount of wheat sold by farmers.

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Town note

The warehouses in the port of Red Wing could store and export more than a million bushels of wheat.

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Town note

Once the railroads came, things started to pick up.

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1887

The Aurora Ski Club was founded in 1887 and was one of the first ski clubs in North America.

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Town note

Its members developed their own Red Wing style of skiing.

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Town note

A Norwegian immigrant named Mikjel Hemistvit set the first American ski jumping record with a 37-foot flight.

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Town note

The immigrants in the area were German, Irish, Norwegian and Swedish.

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Town note

Industries included tanning, shoemaking, bricks, barrels, boats, furniture, pottery, buttons, beer, lumber and stone cutting.

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1878

Red Wing Potteries was founded in 1878 and its factory closed in 1967.

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1973

The Prairie Island nuclear plant was built in 1973.

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Town note

Red Wing shoes are manufactured in the town.

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Town note

Redell ice and roller skates were made there.

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Town note

The Treasure Island Resort and Casino is operated by Native Americans there.

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Town note

The town's sister cities are Ikata in Japan, Kyushu in China and Kongsberg in Norway.

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Town note

The town motto on its website is come for a visit, stay for a lifetime.

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Town note

The town covers 41 square miles, 34 of them on land, with the rest made up of the river.

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The figures, as told

Religious

66%

Biggest faith: LDS, 1.1%

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Who lives here

White 90.30% · Black 1.89% · Asian 0.48% · Hispanic 3.64%

Ethnicity can overlap race.

Crime / national average

Property crime
▲ above average

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Violent crime
▼ almost a third of the national average

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Money

Median home value$183,400
Median household incomeabout $48,000
Cost of living$92,000
All figures and comparisons, as told in 2018

Property crime

"above average"

Comparison: "national average". Direction: above.

As told in 2018 about 0:32:49

Violent crime

"almost a third of the national average"

Comparison: "national average". Direction: below.

As told in 2018 about 0:33:03

Population

"16,445"

Comparison: "up 9% since 1990". Direction: above.

As told in 2018 about 0:25:10

Median age

"42.8"

Comparison: "about five years higher than the normal median age". Direction: above.

As told in 2018 about 0:25:45

Native American

"0.25%"

Comparison: "very high for normal". Direction: above.

As told in 2018 about 0:26:40

Democrat

"about 47%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:28:29

Unemployment rate

"about 4%"

Comparison: "lower than normal". Direction: below.

As told in 2018 about 0:28:41

Household income

"about $48,000"

Comparison: "$5,000 below the normal". Direction: below.

As told in 2018 about 0:28:45

Cost of living

"$92,000"

Comparison: "$100,000 is normal". Direction: below.

As told in 2018 about 0:29:00

Housing

"$75,000"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:29:04

Median home cost

"$183,400"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:29:08

Houses between $100,000 and $200,000

"over 50%"

Direction: above.

As told in 2018 about 0:29:19

Average rental of a two-bedroom

"about $11.70"

Comparison: "below average of the country". Direction: below.

As told in 2018 about 0:29:46

Two-bedroom, one-bath house

"$125,000"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:30:17

Three-bedroom, two-bath house

"$110,000"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:30:27

Six-bedroom, three-bath house

"$259,125"

Comparison: "under $300,000". Direction: below.

As told in 2018 about 0:30:54

The reviews

No rated reviews

“Titled very stagnant, the review calls Red Wing a pretty town along the river but says the town is old, has no 20 to 30-year-old youthful vibe, only the Sheridan Theater for culture and a mall with about a dozen stores. It says manufacturing has dried up, jobs have gone with it, Jostens, Pirelli and the tannery are gone, even Red Wing Shoe has had tough times, and Walmart wages are hard to raise a family on.”
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The story

Red Wing, Minnesota, lies in Goodhue County in the south-eastern part of the state, on the Mississippi River. In the early 1990s it was a town of about 16,000 people, and the case that follows unfolded there over two years.

Daylene May Counts was 21 years old in the spring of 1991 and already had two children from a previous marriage, a three-year-old and a one-year-old. Both were quick to fall into relationships. Within months they were living together on and off, and by September 1991 Counts was pregnant.

The relationship was violent almost from the start. On 4 January 1992, before the baby was born, a custody evaluation took place. Their daughter was born on 11 April 1992.

While he was inside, Counts began seeing another man. When he came out in September 1992 she filed for an order of protection and for child support. On 21 September her affidavit alleged physical and emotional abuse. The cycle continued. On 21 December 1992 she told another custody evaluator that he had punched her in the back, thrown a full can at her and put her in a chokehold because she refused to have sex with him. On 28 December each of them obtained a restraining order against the other.

On 7 January 1993 a neighbour in the next apartment called the Red Wing police after hearing the couple argue all day and hearing something smash against the shared wall.

By March 1993 the relationship was over and they were living apart.

They stopped at Counts's apartment to leave the daughter for a weekend visit. Counts asked him into a bedroom to talk. She told him she had contracted chlamydia and suggested he be tested. He later claimed she also said, Good luck finding a girlfriend now. He stormed out, came back a minute later and demanded a small amount of money she allegedly owed him. She refused. He shouted, I'm surprised you didn't give me AIDS, and left without the daughter.

The planned dinner with his parents was abandoned. They drove him and Lampman to a liquor store, then to Lampman's house, where the two men drank beer and played cards. Later he said he was going to fuck her up and finish her. Before leaving for a party, he asked Lampman for a knife.

The party was in Jerry Lewis's apartment at the Red Wing Motel. A girl under 18 at the party heard him say, I'm going to kill her. He left with Lampman and Lewis, walked towards Lampman's house, then peeled off alone.

At about 10 p.m. he went to Counts's apartment and banged on the window of the front door with the butt of the knife. The glass did not break, but a light came on and Counts let him in. He had the knife hidden under his jacket. He said they sat and talked, that his daughter and Counts's young son were awake, and that he rocked his daughter to sleep and put her in the son's bed. He took his jacket off and put it and the knife under his chair.

Then Counts told him she did not want to spend Easter, which was also their daughter's first birthday, with him. She said she wanted to take the daughter and spend the day with another man. He said he was overwhelmed by rage at being lied to, grabbed the knife, stabbed her in the heart, threw her on the floor and slashed her.

The medical examiner found a deep stab wound through her clothing that reached her heart and killed her. She had been slashed across the abdomen, both arms, thighs and buttocks, had a deep stab wound in the buttocks, a stab wound below her left breast, and the letter T carved into her stomach. Her left eye was bruised, and the examiner thought that injury was inflicted before death, possibly as much as a day earlier. The other wounds were post-mortem.

He walked back to Lampman's house and said, I killed her, and I fucked the bitch up. Lampman did not believe him.

The next morning, 20 March, he went to the hospital to be tested for chlamydia. He then returned to his parents' house, where Lampman came over. At about 2.30 p.m. his brother called from the Minnesota Correctional Facility in St. Cloud.

At about 5.36 p.m. Counts's friend Catherine Weddle, who had keys, let herself into the apartment and found her dead. The three children were there, screaming and covered in blood. The five-year-old, Tiffany, said, Bill did with a knife. Bill did because he was mad at mommy, and, My mommy died. Bill died her. A neighbour called 911. In the basement they found a hand-drawn picture of a bleeding heart with a knife sticking out of it and the words help me underneath. He denied the killing.

There were also counts of second-degree murder, third-degree murder, second-degree criminal sexual conduct, second-degree assault with a dangerous weapon, child endangerment and child neglect.

The five-year-old's videotaped testimony was played. Much of it was hearsay, but the court admitted it because Counts had told consistent accounts to several people. He admitted killing her but denied premeditation and claimed he acted in the heat of passion. He first said Lampman gave him the knife, then said he stole it. He said he had gone to the apartment only to vandalise a car, found no cars, broke the door window, was let in, and that the killing followed the argument about Easter. He said he watched her die and did not seek medical help. He put the time in the apartment at 30 to 45 minutes.

The manslaughter count was not reached.

The defence called the killing a spontaneous, isolated incident caused by intoxication and said he was remorseful. The judge said the conduct, including leaving the children there, was beyond the court's comprehension. Counts's mother, Mary Poole, said, I hope the next woman that cries for help, somebody will listen.

Counts is buried at Conrad Memorial Cemetery in Kalispell, Flathead County, Montana. The three children survived; Tiffany was five, her brother three and the baby 11 months old.

The case

Murder of Daylene Counts

Victims

Daylene May Counts (23). mother of three and on-and-off girlfriend; mother of his 11-month-old daughter

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 5 September 2018.

Accused

Outcome

Other people

Jerry Lewis. acquaintance who hosted the party at his apartment in the Red Wing Motel
Catherine Weddle. Daylene's friend, who found her body
Tiffany Counts. Daylene's five-year-old daughter, who saw the killing and testified by videotape
Mary Poole. Daylene's mother
Elise Hammer. his caseworker

The timeline

  1. April 1991 Jr. and Daylene Counts, both about 21, meet and begin a relationshipabout 0:37:26
  2. September 1991 Counts becomes pregnantabout 0:40:53
  3. January 4, 1992 A pre-birth custody evaluation is held; Counts tells the evaluator that often slapped her and her two childrenabout 0:43:59
  4. April 11, 1992 Their daughter is bornabout 0:47:22
  5. September 1992 After his release, Counts files for an order of protection and a petition for child supportabout 0:49:44
  6. September 21, 1992 Counts's affidavit in support of the order of protection alleges physical and emotional abuseabout 0:50:51
  7. September 29, 1992 Counts files to dismiss the petitionabout 0:50:53
  8. December 21, 1992 punches Counts in the back, throws a can at her and puts her in a chokehold after she refuses sexabout 0:52:29
  9. Late December 1992 A second custody evaluation is held; the baby is eight months oldabout 0:52:21
  10. December 28, 1992 Counts obtains a restraining order and obtains one against her the same dayabout 0:54:20
  11. March 1993 The relationship is over and they live apart; obtains custody of their daughter and lives with his parents ( parents' house)about 1:05:35
  12. March 19, 1993 , his parents and Jay Lampman leave his parents' house and drop his daughter at Counts's apartment for a weekend visit (Daylene Counts's apartment)about 1:09:20
  13. March 19, 1993 Counts tells in a bedroom that she has chlamydia and suggests he be tested; he storms out, returns demanding money, says I'm surprised you didn't give me AIDS and leaves (Daylene Counts's apartment)about 1:11:03
  14. March 19, 1993 His parents drive him and Lampman to a liquor store and then to Lampman's house, where they drink beer and play cards (Lampman house)about 1:17:29
  15. March 19, 1993 tells Lampman he is going to kill Counts (Lampman house)about 1:18:13
  16. March 19, 1993 Before leaving for a party, asks Lampman for a knife and takes a steak knife from the kitchen drawer (Lampman house)about 1:22:55
  17. March 19, 1993 At a party in Jerry Lewis's apartment at the Red Wing Motel, tells a juvenile girl he is going to kill her (Red Wing Motel)about 1:26:28
  18. March 19, 1993 leaves the party, walks towards Lampman's house and then peels off aloneabout 1:27:07
  19. March 19, 1993, about 10 p.m. bangs on Counts's door window with the knife butt; she lets him in and they talk (Daylene Counts's apartment)about 1:50:37
  20. March 19, 1993 Counts says she will spend Easter and their daughter's first birthday with another man; stabs her in the heart, slashes her body and carves a T into her stomach (Daylene Counts's apartment)about 1:53:45

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