FILE 343 / 8 December 2022 / 164 MIN / full

Good Vs Bad John

St. Robert, MissouriListen

The town

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We're going to St. Robert, Missouri. This is south central Missouri... This is in Pulaski County. about 0:04:58

History, in brief

Town note

St. Robert's motto is 'home to our military heroes'; the town is built around the fort.

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Town note

It is known as a gateway community to the army installation at Fort Leonard Wood.

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Town note

Before Fort Leonard Wood was established, its name was briefly used to rename Fort Meade in central Maryland, then changed back after Pennsylvania legislators complained; George G. Meade was a hero of the Battle of Gettysburg.

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1939

In 1939, Congress approved the purchase of a 40,000 acre tract of land for a military installation.

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All 6 history facts

Town note

St. Robert's motto is 'home to our military heroes'; the town is built around the fort.

about 0:05:23

Town note

It is known as a gateway community to the army installation at Fort Leonard Wood.

about 0:05:45

Town note

Before Fort Leonard Wood was established, its name was briefly used to rename Fort Meade in central Maryland, then changed back after Pennsylvania legislators complained; George G. Meade was a hero of the Battle of Gettysburg.

about 0:05:52

1939

In 1939, Congress approved the purchase of a 40,000 acre tract of land for a military installation.

about 0:07:06

Town note

There was a critical shortage of ground water at the site.

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Town note

St. Robert is about two hours from St. Louis, an hour and fifty minutes from Columbia, and an hour and fifty minutes from Fenton, Missouri.

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The figures, as told

Religious

38%

Biggest faith: Baptist residents, 24%

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Who lives here

White 54.5% · Black 15.7% · Asian 5.6% · Hispanic 17.5%

Ethnicity can overlap race.

Crime / national average

Property crime
▲ almost three times the national average

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Violent crime
▲ slightly high, but not too high

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Money

Median home value$159,200
Two-bedroom rent$821 a month
Median household income$47,000
Cost of living78

For sale

$42,000

Three bedroom, one bath house, 510 square feet

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For sale

$69,500

Three bedroom, one bath house, 1,655 square feet

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For sale

$329,500

Four bedroom, four bath house, 3,226 square feet

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All figures and comparisons, as told in 2022

Property crime

"almost three times the national average"

Comparison: "national average". Direction: above.

As told in 2022 about 0:25:48

Violent crime

"slightly high, but not too high"

Direction: above.

As told in 2022 about 0:26:02

Population

"6,358"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:17:16

Median age

"32.8"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:17:27

Residents aged 85 and over

"0.0%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:17:39

Residents aged 75 to 84

"about half the normal share"

Comparison: "normal". Direction: below.

As told in 2022 about 0:17:53

Married residents

"57%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:18:01

White residents

"54.5%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:18:01

Black residents

"15.7%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:18:01

Asian residents

"5.6%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:18:01

Hispanic residents

"17.5%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:18:01

Democratic vote in Pulaski County

"25.9%"

Comparison: "last election". No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:19:08

Republican vote in Pulaski County

"71.5%"

Comparison: "last election". No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:19:08

Independent vote in Pulaski County

"2.6%"

Comparison: "last election". No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:19:08

Religious residents

"38%"

Comparison: "way lower than the rest of Missouri". Direction: below.

As told in 2022 about 0:18:54

Baptist residents

"24%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:18:54

Median household income

"$47,000"

Comparison: "a little lower than the national average". Direction: below.

As told in 2022 about 0:19:30

Cost of living index

"78"

Comparison: "100 is average". Direction: below.

As told in 2022 about 0:19:42

Median home cost

"$159,200"

Comparison: "much lower than the national average". Direction: below.

As told in 2022 about 0:19:43

Average two bedroom rent

"$821 a month"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:20:12

Three bedroom, one bath house, 510 square feet

"$42,000"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:20:46

Three bedroom, one bath house, 1,655 square feet

"$69,500"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:21:18

Four bedroom, four bath house, 3,226 square feet

"$329,500"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:21:59

The reviews

3.2 / 5 · average of 6

5 stars

“A small town right outside Fort Leonard Wood with not much entertainment, but a great place to raise a family, get an education and worship God; plenty of hunting and camping, though the family has to travel an hour for decent shopping.”
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4 stars

“Great people; the reviewer shops, eats and wanders with friends there, recommends climbing the watch tower on the outskirts and the Superman ice cream at I Love Ice Cream, and likes ending a night out at the McDonald's down the road.”
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4 stars

“A military resident of five years likes the small city and old town feel and the outdoor activities, clubs and town events, but wants more big business and more variety in food, such as Italian restaurants.”
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3 stars

“A former Route 66 town kept alive mainly by the nearby army post; highlights are the Walmart Super Center and an intensely mediocre Buffalo Wild Wings.”
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2 stars

“One of the worst cities the reviewer has lived in in the United States and Europe; tattoo parlours and pawn shops line Missouri Avenue to the fort's main entrance and the bars are full of new army graduates, though the hunting is good.”
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1 star

“Living on post sucks; housing, army wives, trash and the hospital are all complained about, and there is nothing to do but the same repetitive things, with Springfield or St. Louis the only escape, although the reviewer still gives St. Robert three stars.”
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The story

Juanita Deckard was eighteen and an honour student; Linda Needham was sixteen, a junior at Plato High School and a cheerleader; Bates was eighteen and Wesley Hawkins nineteen, both honour students. Driving south on South Gate Road inside Fort Leonard Wood, they were stopped by a military policeman in an International Scout. He told them the car matched the description of a vehicle used in an armed robbery at the Southgate Texaco station off the post, asked for identification, made the boys get out and handcuffed them, and put all four into his Scout.

As the boys sat in the back seat he drew his .45 pistol and shot each of them once. He told Juanita not to look back and told Linda to say nothing. Linda was made to sit between the two wounded boys and Juanita sat in the front. After about ten minutes they reached a game warden's cabin in the woods. He built a fire in a stove, made the girls stand against the wall, and then ordered them to undress. Over roughly three and a half to four hours he forced them to perform sexual acts on each other and on him and raped both of them, keeping the .45 in his hand or beside him throughout. He went out for wood several times and pretended to be tending to the boys, and told them he was not really an MP but a soldier who was deserting and leaving for Canada the next day. He said that if they did everything he told them they would not be hurt, and that he knew the ground so well they could not escape.

At about 4.20 a.m. he said he was behind schedule and drove all four to a snowy clearing. He ordered the girls out at gunpoint to face the other way and shot them. Juanita was hit in the arm and the chest and felt faint; Linda fell. He dragged Linda into the woods; she had been pretending to be dead, and when he noticed she was alive he shot her at close range. He kicked snow over Juanita, kicked her with his boot to see if she would move, and buried her in snow. He then walked Tony Bates out of the Scout and shot him. He stayed in the area about thirty minutes before driving away.

Juanita waited until she could no longer hear the vehicle, called the others by name and got no answer. She then walked about six miles through eight inches of snow, with snow packed inside her jeans, to a house on Highway 17. Around 12.30 p.m. she knocked at the Eckleberry home. Mrs Eckleberry, who had her two young children in the house, brought her in, warmed her at the wood stove and helped her out of her wet clothes, seeing two bullet wounds. A ring fell from Juanita's sock and she said it was her boyfriend's, and that he was dead in the woods. Juanita asked to telephone friends; Douglas Hawkins, Wesley's brother, and Herschel Needham, Linda's father, came to collect her, and it was Needham who finally used the telephone to call the Missouri State Highway Patrol.

J.B. King, then a trooper and later sheriff, was sent to a nearby base camp to look into what was thought to be a matter of runaways. He found Juanita at the roadside, interviewed her and radioed details back. She described the Scout and a number like 327. At the briefing an MP sergeant arrived in a Scout numbered 327; King looked inside and saw blood in the back seat and a bullet hole in the tailgate. That afternoon he checked out another .45 and disappeared. In the evening he telephoned another MP and asked to be collected.

The FBI and CID set up teams. They met him near his car in the woods; he had circled behind them and came out of the dark, holding his pistol. He said he knew he had done something bad but could not remember what, that he had bad headaches, and that he had thought about shooting himself. After about thirty-five minutes he ejected the round from the chamber and laid the pistol on the dirt road.

Investigators found his fingerprints and Juanita's on the cabin's bunk bed and stove, two pairs of handcuffs he had signed out, saying he was going to play supercop, and his signed transactions for the pistol, ammunition and Scout. Bullets and casings from the scene matched the pistol issued to him. In his own car they found a pubic hair from one of the girls, though she had never been in it. Autopsies showed Hawkins died instantly from a shot through the heart; Bates's first wound was not fatal and he was killed later. Linda Needham, 5 foot 2 and 90 pounds, had snow frozen in her hair and around her eyes, which melted and ran like tears under the mortuary lights.

The defence was insanity. State psychiatrists found no psychosis, and Dr Herbert Spiegel, who had studied hypnosis for 37 years, called the whole performance a charade.

In 1981 the families sued the federal government, seeking $750,040 for the Hawkins family, $600,000 for the Needhams and $501,815 for the Bates family.

The case

The Fort Leonard Wood MP murders

Victims

Wesley Hawkins (19). honour student from Plato; Juanita Deckard's date; shot through the heart and killed instantly
Anthony Lee Bates (18). drove the 1972 Dodge Charger; shot in the lower chest, then walked out and shot dead
Linda Needham (16). Plato High School junior and cheerleader; raped and shot dead in the clearing
Juanita Deckard (18). honour student; raped and shot in the arm and chest but survived, walking six miles for help

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 8 December 2022.

Accused

Outcome

Other people

J.B. King. trooper who interviewed Deckard at the roadside and later became sheriff
Jannah Eckleberry. woman who took Deckard in at her home on Highway 17
Douglas Hawkins. Wesley Hawkins's brother, who collected Deckard
Herschel Needham. Linda Needham's father, who called the highway patrol
Leroy Bates. Tony Bates's father
Robert L. Hall Jr.. commissary worker stopped by on South Gate Road earlier that night
Stanley Handley. Hall's workmate, stopped in the same vehicle
Dr. William F. Clary. defence psychiatrist who diagnosed multiple personalities
Dr. Herbert Spiegel. psychiatrist who called the hypnosis and performance a charade
Dr. Otsenmeyer. state psychiatrist who found no psychosis
Betty. female soldier he was seeing, a divorced mother of a six-year-old boy
Special Agent William Castleberry. FBI agent hidden in the back seat with a shotgun at the surrender

The timeline

  1. grows up with his mother constantly on the run from his violent father, John Warden Sr.about 0:43:01
  2. His father throws a glass at him and he is hospitalised to have glass fragments removed from his eye.about 0:44:26
  3. His father tries to shoot him and on another occasion chokes him until he turns blue and passes out.about 0:44:55
  4. An 18-year-old babysitter sexually abuses him and his brother Jessie, then aged eight and seven.about 0:45:22
  5. At 17 he meets Patty, then 16, in Concord, California.about 0:46:19
  6. At 18 he robs a wig salon and a dairy farm.about 0:46:43
  7. May 29th, 1972 He and Patty move to Santa Rosa, California, staying with his mother and then his uncle Kenny.about 0:48:18
  8. December 1973 They move to Arkansas, where he works in grocery stores.about 0:48:55
  9. 1974 He works for IGA until 1974 and then starts at Safeway.about 0:49:14
  10. April 1975 He tells his mother to stay out of their lives.about 0:52:45
  11. May 1975 He joins the army, intending to become an MP.about 0:49:40
  12. May 13th, 1975 He leaves for basic training at Fort Leonard Wood and then Fort McClellan, Alabama. (Fort Leonard Wood)about 0:53:20
  13. September 1975 His son Michael is born and he is assigned to Fort Leonard Wood. (Fort Leonard Wood)about 0:52:15
  14. October 1975 The family moves into a house.about 0:54:45
  15. 1976 Patty is pregnant again and wants her to have an abortion.about 0:54:48
  16. May 20th, 1976 Their son Travis is born.about 0:56:01
  17. June 1976 says the new baby is not his.about 0:56:05
  18. 1976 Patty files for divorce and a month later moves out of the house.about 0:56:25
  19. October 10th, 1976 Al Marshall's car is found locked and abandoned on Fort Leonard Wood. (Fort Leonard Wood)about 2:24:41
  20. January 13th, 1977 At about 12.15 a.m. the four teenagers on the double date are stopped on South Gate Road. (South Gate Road)about 0:32:12
  21. January 13th, 1977 handcuffs the boys, puts all four in his Scout and shoots Hawkins and Bates in the back seat. (South Gate Road)about 0:38:55
  22. January 13th, 1977 He drives the girls to the game warden's cabin and assaults them over about three and a half to four hours. (Game warden's cabin)about 1:34:46
  23. January 13th, 1977 At about 4.20 a.m. he drives them to a snowy clearing and shoots Linda and Juanita. (Snowy clearing)about 1:36:59
  24. January 13th, 1977 He kills Linda after realising she is alive, then walks Tony out and shoots him, and leaves after about 30 minutes. (Snowy clearing)about 1:39:20
  25. January 13th, 1977 Juanita walks about six miles and reaches the Eckleberry house on Highway 17 at about 12.30 p.m. (Eckleberry residence)about 1:48:53
  26. January 13th, 1977 Douglas Hawkins and Herschel Needham collect her and the highway patrol is finally called. (Eckleberry residence)about 1:54:32
  27. January 13th, 1977 That afternoon checks out another .45 pistol and disappears. (MP headquarters)about 1:08:54
  28. January 13th, 1977 At about 6.20 p.m. he telephones another MP and asks to be collected. (MP headquarters)about 1:13:30
  29. January 13th, 1977 He surrenders after a 35-minute standoff in the woods and lays his pistol on the dirt road.about 1:22:52
  30. 1981 The three families sue the federal government for damages.about 2:27:14
  31. is reported still alive in a federal facility in Tucson. (Tucson federal facility)about 2:29:16

Disappearances of Al Marshall and TC Gossage

Victims

Al Marshall. teenager whose car was found locked and abandoned on Fort Leonard Wood
TC Gossage. teenager who disappeared with Marshall

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 8 December 2022.

Accused

Outcome

Other people

J.B. King. sheriff who said fingerprints were all over the case

The timeline

  1. October 1976 Two teenagers disappear and the next day their car is found locked and abandoned. (Fort Leonard Wood)about 2:23:34
  2. October 10th, 1976 Al Marshall's car is located on Fort Leonard Wood. (Fort Leonard Wood)about 2:24:41
  3. October 10th, 1976 appears within three minutes of the radio announcement that the car has been found and asks what has been discovered. (Fort Leonard Wood)about 2:25:16
  4. October 10th, 1976 files a report saying he shot dogs that night, matching the timeline of the disappearance. (Fort Leonard Wood)about 2:25:35

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