FILE 356 / 21 January 2023 / 69 MIN / express

The Projection Transfer Theory

La Grande, OregonListen

The town

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"We're going to La Grande, Oregon", in northeastern Oregon; the mental health director who sits in on the interrogation is "for Union County" about 0:02:44

History, in brief

1861

Benjamin Brown was the first permanent settler in the area, arriving in 1861.

about 0:04:35

Town note

The town was first called Browns Fort, Brownstown or Brownsville; because another Brownsville already existed, a French settler named it Le Grand for the scenic splendour.

about 0:05:00

Town note

Before there was a post office, William Curry charged 50 cents a letter to carry mail on horseback from Walla Walla, Washington.

about 0:05:15

Town note

La Grande had a factory that processed sugar beets into raw sugar; the beets came from Nibbly, Oregon.

about 0:05:48
All 4 history facts

1861

Benjamin Brown was the first permanent settler in the area, arriving in 1861.

about 0:04:35

Town note

The town was first called Browns Fort, Brownstown or Brownsville; because another Brownsville already existed, a French settler named it Le Grand for the scenic splendour.

about 0:05:00

Town note

Before there was a post office, William Curry charged 50 cents a letter to carry mail on horseback from Walla Walla, Washington.

about 0:05:15

Town note

La Grande had a factory that processed sugar beets into raw sugar; the beets came from Nibbly, Oregon.

about 0:05:48

The figures, as told

Money

Median home valueabout $206,000
Median household income$40,750
All figures and comparisons, as told in 2023

Population

"13,399 people"

No direction stated.

As told in 2023 about 0:03:48

Median household income

"$40,750"

No direction stated.

As told in 2023 about 0:03:53

Median home cost

"about $206,000"

No direction stated.

As told in 2023 about 0:03:59

The reviews

2.4 / 5 · average of 5

5 stars

“Love La Grande, right in the mountains, a smaller city but with plenty of stores and shopping, lakes a few miles up a mountain in different directions; beautiful town and great people.”
about 0:06:46

2 stars

“Pretty dry region with over 60 wildfires in Oregon alone, hard to breathe, everyone coming into the pharmacy for allergy medicine; lots of trees but still dusty and dry.”
about 0:07:08

2 stars

“If you ride a bike you will most likely get hit; people seem to be aiming for you.”
about 0:07:32

2 stars

“When the street lamps go off when you walk underneath them, it's a problem.”
about 0:07:51

1 star

“Avoid at all costs; the geographical isolation slowly takes your soul, people quit bettering themselves, the town is run by a handful of families who only hire within, most of the town makes less than $35,000 a year and your future employment depends on which church you attend.”
about 0:08:46

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The story

La Grande, Oregon, is a small city of about 13,400 people in Union County, in the dry northeast of the state. On the evening of Friday 11 February 1983 he went drinking and ended up at My Wife's Place, where twenty-year-old Dana Lynn Dumars was the cocktail waitress. Page calmed him and took him outside.

At about 2.15 a.m. on 12 February Stroud left with her boyfriend Brian. A few blocks away the truck broke down near Candy Cane Park. They pushed it towards the park, abandoned it and walked to the apartment of Brian's cousin, passing Dana Dumars walking back towards the bars. The cousin did not answer and the couple separated. Stroud walked back towards the park, heard moaning and saw in the dark a cream-coloured shape in the middle of the park, one person on top of another. She took it for a couple having sex and went on. At 7 a.m. two men found Dana Dumars in the park, barely alive, with hatchet wounds and her head half severed. She died before reaching hospital. A pool of blood lay near the sidewalk with a trail leading to where she was found.

The murder was all over town, and he told colleagues the victim worked at the bar where he had been, before police had named her. That evening Lieutenant O'Rork and another officer searched his home with his consent, found nothing and took him to the station, where O'Rork and Sergeant Button questioned him from about 7.40 p.m. until 2.40 a.m. He first denied any row with Stroud, then admitted grabbing her by the throat and face and threatening to cut her head off. He denied crossing Adams, the main street between the bar and the park, then admitted driving down to the park and seeing a couple leave a broken-down pickup.

The interrogation was extraordinary. O'Rork held a colour photograph of Dana's face in front of him and asked three times whether he had done it. From 11 p.m. the questioning was taped. Button told him to close his eyes and watch the night as a film, convinced him he had a special gift and could see what he had never witnessed, and under the technique he called projection transfer got him to describe a shiny metal object that became a hatchet, hidden in thick bushes behind Homer LaFell's house across from the park. The questioning then moved to the earlier killing of Sylvia Heisteman.

Three months later a boy mowing LaFell's yard found a hatchet handle in a grass pile. The FBI laboratory found no fingerprints or blood on it, but the state crime lab matched striations on the blade to the victim's skull and found hair on the blade, and called it the murder weapon. His defence argued that his low IQ meant he could not have done it and that he had been tricked; the state's theory was that he mistook Dumars for Stroud, who was dressed similarly, and attacked her over his grievance with Stroud.

Bail was set at $100,000. In 1986 the state decided it had no evidence apart from the statements, since the hatchet carried no fingerprints, and did not recharge him. He went free and was still living in La Grande at the time of the episode. Candy Cane Park gained a reputation for being haunted by Dana Dumars; its merry-go-round was removed in 2003 after reports of it spinning out of control, and people report a ghostly woman on the benches and swings warning them to leave.

The case

Murder of Dana Lynn Dumars

Victims

Dana Lynn Dumars (20). cocktail waitress at My Wife's Place

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 21 January 2023.

Accused

Outcome

Other people

Patty Stroud. woman was hitting on at My Wife's Place; he grabbed her face and threatened to cut her head off
Brian. Patty Stroud's boyfriend
Sedric Page. friend at the bar, whose apartment he said he drove to
David Trice. another man sitting at the table at My Wife's Place
Lieutenant O'Rork. La Grande police lieutenant who led the interrogation
Sergeant Button. La Grande police sergeant who ran the 'projection transfer' interrogation
Chief Johnson. La Grande police chief who ordered to be read his rights
Homer LaFell. man whose yard across from the park held the hatchet
director of mental health services for Union County. entered the interrogation room at 10 p.m. and stayed to the end

The timeline

  1. 1962 or 1963 is bornabout 0:13:13
  2. February 11, 1983 goes out drinking in La Grande and ends up at My Wife's Place (My Wife's Place)about 0:14:00
  3. February 11, 1983 sits with Patty Stroud, Sedric Page and David Trice while Dana Dumars waits tables (My Wife's Place)about 0:15:58
  4. February 11, 1983 grabs Patty Stroud by the face, calls her a bitch and threatens to cut her head off with his knife (My Wife's Place)about 0:19:02
  5. February 12, 1983, about 2.15 a.m. Stroud leaves with her boyfriend Brian and they cross to the Long Branch Tavern, where they see at the bar (Long Branch Tavern)about 0:21:31
  6. about 45 minutes later Stroud and Brian leave the Long Branch in her pickup truck (Long Branch Tavern)about 0:21:58
  7. 15 to 20 minutes later leaves the Long Branch (Long Branch Tavern)about 0:22:08
  8. about 3 a.m., February 12, 1983 Stroud's pickup truck breaks down a few blocks from Candy Cane Park (Candy Cane Park)about 0:22:19
  9. February 12, 1983 Stroud and Brian push the truck towards the park, abandon it and walk to his cousin's apartment, passing Dana Dumars walking back towards the bars (Candy Cane Park)about 0:23:36
  10. February 12, 1983 Brian's cousin does not answer the door; Stroud and Brian separate and Stroud walks back towards the parkabout 0:24:33
  11. between 4 and 4.45 a.m., February 12, 1983 Stroud hears moaning, sees a cream-coloured shape near the middle of the park, one person on top of another, and assumes a couple are having sex (Candy Cane Park)about 0:24:59
  12. about 4.15 a.m., February 12, 1983 returns to the Long Branch; the cook serves him coffee and notices his scraped knuckles and freshly scrubbed hands (Long Branch Tavern)about 0:26:38
  13. 7 a.m., February 12, 1983 Two men find Dana Dumars in Candy Cane Park with hatchet wounds and her head half severed; she dies before reaching hospital (Candy Cane Park)about 0:27:24

Murder of Sylvia Heisteman

Victims

Sylvia Heisteman. woman killed a few months before Dana Dumars; the case had been in the press

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 21 January 2023.

Accused

Outcome

The timeline

  1. a few months before February 1983 Sylvia Heisteman is killed; the case had made the press (Morgan Lake)about 0:59:03

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