FILE 664 / 10 January 2026 / 72 MIN / express

The Deadly Grandma & The Doppelgänger

Austin, ArkansasListen

The town

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James says they are going to Arkansas this week, to Austin, Arkansas, in central Arkansas about half an hour outside Little Rock; he gives the county as 'Loneoak County or Lannock County'. about 0:03:14

History, in brief

1872

The city was settled in 1872, when the railroad built tracks about one mile southeast of old Austin.

about 0:04:45

Town note

Many residents of old Austin moved a mile to be near the railroad tracks, dragging their buildings with them.

about 0:05:00

Town note

The new settlement near the tracks was called Austin Station to distinguish it from the original Austin; it later became Austin, and the original became old Austin.

about 0:05:12
All 3 history facts

1872

The city was settled in 1872, when the railroad built tracks about one mile southeast of old Austin.

about 0:04:45

Town note

Many residents of old Austin moved a mile to be near the railroad tracks, dragging their buildings with them.

about 0:05:00

Town note

The new settlement near the tracks was called Austin Station to distinguish it from the original Austin; it later became Austin, and the original became old Austin.

about 0:05:12

The figures, as told

Crime / national average

Murder rate
the highest in the country

about 1:08:52

Money

Median home value$200,900
Median household income$78,878
All figures and comparisons, as told in 2026

Population

"3,486"

No direction stated.

As told in 2026 about 0:04:04

Median household income

"$78,878"

Comparison: "national average of $69,000". No direction stated.

As told in 2026 about 0:04:21

Median home cost

"$200,900"

No direction stated.

As told in 2026 about 0:04:33

Murder rate

"the highest in the country"

Comparison: "Louisiana and Mississippi are close behind". No direction stated.

As told in 2026 about 1:08:52

The reviews

4.0 / 5 · average of 2

4 stars

“A quiet, family-friendly community with a small-town feel and a strong sense of neighbourly support; peaceful, low crime, solid schools and growing at a comfortable pace, but wants more grocery stores, restaurants and recreational facilities.”
about 0:05:44

4 stars

“Has a small-town feel but is very close to the larger metropolitan area of Little Rock, providing multiple opportunities.”
about 0:06:45

In Arkansas

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The story

The episode is set in Austin, Arkansas, a town of 3,486 people about half an hour outside Little Rock.

On 7 November 1979 J.W. was found dead in his home with a gunshot wound, and the death was ruled a suicide.

She moved in with him in the Austin area in late 1984 or early 1985. Two weeks before he disappeared he gave her power of attorney over his certificates of deposit and accounts.

In March 1986 Floyd's sister could not find him. Officer Gage of the state police found that their joint account, which had held about $64,000, had been drained to about $5,000 since late January. She had also collected $1,000 monthly interest payments on one of his certificates of deposit and traded his pickup for a new one. The state police later said she withdrew about $80,000 from his accounts and investments.

She repeated her story in April 1986. In May she produced a farewell note she said Floyd had left in her screen door. Neighbours said that from late January she had kept a fire burning in her yard day and night for more than a month, and that a shed had been built over the spot. A dump truck operator said she refused to let him remove old timbers from the hole, insisting it was an old septic tank. Another neighbour was told that a quilt she admired had been stolen.

In September 1986 police obtained a search warrant. In October she changed her story: Floyd had left on 14 January but returned the next day, threatened her with a gun and said he would kill her and himself if she would not marry him. She ran into the woods, heard a shot, returned and found him dead with a gun beside him. She wrapped him in the quilt, put him in the rubbish, then dragged him into the yard and buried him because she wanted him close.

The medical examiner found the wound was not consistent with suicide: the bullet entered between the eye and ear and travelled from the rear. The gun she handed over was not the murder weapon, and no other gun was found.

The second case began on 5 August 1994. David Lesal, 45, who lived in New Iberia and had worked in aviation and the offshore boat industry, was hiking with his cousin Henry Porter, 49, and Porter's 18-year-old daughter Molly on a forest trail near the Longpool recreation area in Pope County. A man on a six-wheeled ATV passed them at speed, then stopped, chatted and gave them directions to Longpool. He passed again looking agitated, then came back a fourth time.

Shots followed. Porter heard them and saw Lesal fall, then felt what he thought was a bee sting in his shoulder. He pulled Molly down and saw the ATV rider crouched with a semi-automatic pistol. Porter was hit in the face and then the forearm. Porter fled to a farm for help. Molly hid under a rock on a small cliff and later heard the ATV drive away. Lesal died of a single gunshot wound to the head.

He said he found the ATV later beside his truck, with blood on the keys and the pistol on the floor without its magazine. Police saw the ATV outside with a .22 on it. Ballistics matched his gun to a cartridge at the scene, and swimming trunks at his home matched the witnesses' description. Both witnesses picked him out of a lineup.

He had grown up in extreme poverty with an alcoholic, violent father, attended special education classes and worked as a maintenance man at Arkansas Tech University in Russellville. The defence argued that another man, his double, had done the shooting.

The case

Murder of Floyd Gibson Jr.

Victims

Floyd Gibson Jr.. Retired plant maintenance supervisor for Jonesboro City Water and Light; partner.

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 10 January 2026.

Accused

Outcome

Other people

Floyd's sister. Reported Floyd missing in March 1986.
Officer Gage. Arkansas State Police investigator who handled the disappearance.
Billy Joe Purdham. Sheriff who first investigated James W. 1979 death.

The timeline

  1. September 2, 1933 Joe Basinger is born.about 0:10:18
  2. June 26, 1936 James W. , who goes by J.W., is born.about 0:11:31
  3. 1949 Floyd Gibson Jr. marries for the first time.about 0:14:28
  4. November 7, 1979 J.W. is found dead in his home with a gunshot wound; the death is ruled a suicide. (Yellville)about 0:12:39
  5. 1984 Joe becomes a grandmother and meets Floyd Gibson Jr.about 0:13:47
  6. late 1984 or early 1985 Joe moves in with Floyd Gibson Jr. in the Austin area. (Gibson home)about 0:14:39
  7. two weeks before mid-January 1986 Floyd gives Joe power of attorney over his certificates of deposit and accounts.about 0:31:31
  8. January 14, 1986 Joe says Floyd left her, then returned the next day. (Gibson home)about 0:22:27
  9. mid-January 1986 Floyd Gibson Jr. is shot dead at home. (Gibson home)about 0:29:51

Murder of David Lesal

Victims

David Lesal (45). Native of Arkansas who lived in New Iberia; parks and recreation director for Morgan City in the early 1970s, later a sales manager for an aviation company and a founding partner of Lesal Marine Inc.
Henry Porter (49). David's cousin; shot in the shoulder, face and forearm but survived.

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 10 January 2026.

Accused

Outcome

Other people

Molly Porter. Henry Porter's 18-year-old daughter; unharmed, hid under a rock during the shooting.

The timeline

  1. June 10, 1963 is born.about 0:51:31
  2. early 1970s David Lesal is director of parks and recreation for Morgan City.about 0:40:41
  3. Lesal becomes a founding partner of Lesal Marine Inc.about 0:40:57
  4. August 5, 1994 David Lesal, Henry Porter and Molly Porter go hiking on a forest trail near the Longpool recreation area. (Longpool forest trail)about 0:41:10
  5. August 5, 1994 A man on a six-wheeled ATV passes the hikers at speed, then stops, chats and gives them directions to Longpool. (Longpool forest trail)about 0:42:32
  6. August 5, 1994 The ATV rider passes again looking agitated, then returns a fourth time about two minutes later. (Longpool forest trail)about 0:44:29
  7. August 5, 1994 The gunman opens fire; David Lesal is shot in the head and Henry Porter in the shoulder. (Longpool forest trail)about 0:44:47

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