FILE 86 / 20 September 2018 / 156 MIN / full

The Problem Here Is...

Stanford, MontanaListen

The town

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"This is Stanford, Montana. Stanford, not Stanford, Connecticut, not Stanford the college." It is in central Montana, in Judith Basin County. about 0:06:19

History, in brief

1864

Charles Marion Russell, known as C.M. Russell, was an artist of the old West who lived from 1864 to 1926 and painted more than two thousand paintings of cowboys, Indians and landscapes.

about 0:13:09

Town note

Russell's mural 'Lewis and Clark Meeting the Flathead Indians' is in the state capitol building in Helena, Montana.

about 0:13:43

1918

A 1918 Russell painting, 'Piegans', sold for $5.6 million at auction in 2005.

about 0:13:49

1880

In 1880 Calvin and Edward Bauer came with a thousand head of sheep and acquired a hundred thousand acres of land.

about 0:17:07
All 13 history facts

1864

Charles Marion Russell, known as C.M. Russell, was an artist of the old West who lived from 1864 to 1926 and painted more than two thousand paintings of cowboys, Indians and landscapes.

about 0:13:09

Town note

Russell's mural 'Lewis and Clark Meeting the Flathead Indians' is in the state capitol building in Helena, Montana.

about 0:13:43

1918

A 1918 Russell painting, 'Piegans', sold for $5.6 million at auction in 2005.

about 0:13:49

1880

In 1880 Calvin and Edward Bauer came with a thousand head of sheep and acquired a hundred thousand acres of land.

about 0:17:07

Town note

They named the place Stanfordville after their old home of the same name in Dutchess County, New York.

about 0:17:21

Town note

Stanford is now the county seat of Judith Basin County.

about 0:17:38

1895

Yogo sapphires were discovered at Yogo Gulch in 1895, when the area was still in Fergus County and is now in Judith Basin County.

about 0:18:15

1866

Gold was first discovered in the area in 1866, but there was not enough of it to make the mining worthwhile.

about 0:19:16

1878

In 1878 a thousand miners came for the gold and found blue pebbles in the streams.

about 0:20:09

1894

In 1894 the blue pebbles were recognised as sapphires; prospector Jake Hoover was one of the main miners.

about 0:20:40

2000

A cigar box of the sapphires was sent to Tiffany's in New York City, which called them the finest precious gemstones ever found in the United States, and a cheque for $3,750 was sent back, about $110,000 in 2000.

about 0:21:40

Town note

The sapphire mine was sold to a British company for $100,000, about $2.9 million now.

about 0:22:50

1967

The Judith Basin County Museum opened in 1967 and holds 2,082 sets of salt and pepper shakers, 50,000 buttons and an Indian artefacts display.

about 0:24:14

The figures, as told

Religious

61.4%

Biggest faith: Catholic, 49%

about 0:27:13

Who lives here

White 98.57% · Black 0.0% · Asian 0.0% · Hispanic 0.0%

Ethnicity can overlap race.

Crime / national average

Property crime
▲ slightly higher than average

about 0:31:49

Violent crime
▼ slightly lower than average

about 0:32:05

Money

Median home value$141,200
Two-bedroom rentabout $840 a month
Median household income$49,008
Cost of living88
All figures and comparisons, as told in 2018

Population change

"down 28%"

Comparison: "since 1990". Direction: below.

As told in 2018 about 0:25:22

Median age

"53.3"

Comparison: "almost 20 years older than the normal average". Direction: above.

As told in 2018 about 0:25:25

Female residents

"almost 56%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:25:34

Married with no children

"58%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:25:59

White residents

"98.57%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:26:26

Black residents

"0.0%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:26:41

Asian residents

"0.0%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:26:46

Native American residents

"0.72%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:26:47

Hispanic residents

"0.0%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:26:52

Religious residents

"61.4%"

Comparison: "high". Direction: above.

As told in 2018 about 0:27:13

Presbyterian

"4.3%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:27:41

Unemployment rate

"3.1%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:28:08

Median household income

"$49,008"

Comparison: "about $5,000 less than the average". Direction: below.

As told in 2018 about 0:28:25

Agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting jobs

"11%"

Comparison: "normally 1%". No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:28:47

Construction jobs

"20%"

Comparison: "four times the norm". Direction: above.

As told in 2018 about 0:28:50

Cost of living

"88"

Comparison: "100 is average". Direction: below.

As told in 2018 about 0:29:01

Housing cost

"54"

Comparison: "100 is average". Direction: below.

As told in 2018 about 0:29:01

Median home cost

"$141,200"

No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:29:11

Average two-bedroom rent

"about $840 a month"

Comparison: "$400 less than the average". Direction: below.

As told in 2018 about 0:29:38

Two-bedroom, two-bath property

"$80,500"

Comparison: "1,232 square feet". No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:29:52

Three-bedroom, two-bath house

"$179,900"

Comparison: "2,720 square feet". No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:30:09

Four-bedroom, three-bath house

"$265,000"

Comparison: "4,800 square feet on 3.22 acres". No direction stated.

As told in 2018 about 0:30:37

Property crime

"slightly higher than average"

Comparison: "average". Direction: above.

As told in 2018 about 0:31:49

Violent crime

"slightly lower than average"

Comparison: "average". Direction: below.

As told in 2018 about 0:32:05

The reviews

No rated reviews

“A lifelong resident writing as Oxy Boron says Stanford distorts your worldview, will look the site over and get back to them, and that the site is probably about half right; the review has 82 agree and 82 disagree and no star rating.”
about 0:33:03

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The story

Stanford, Montana, sits in the middle of Judith Basin County, in the centre of the state, an hour from Great Falls and about two hours and forty-five minutes from Billings. James gives the population as 381, down 28 per cent since 1990, with a median age of 53.3, almost twenty years older than the normal average. The town is 98.57 per cent white, 0.72 per cent Native American and nothing else, and 61.4 per cent of the people are religious, 49 per cent of them Catholic. It is an old, quiet, ranching town with a Halloween festival and a museum holding 2,082 sets of salt and pepper shakers.

In 1961 Fay married Leonard These; the couple had no children together. In 1988, by then in their eighties, Fay and Leonard bought a trailer in Great Falls, Montana, as an inexpensive way to live out their years. Both then developed Alzheimer's disease and dementia. By about 1993 neither could care for the other or make decisions.

The Great Falls Fire Department found no cause and no evidence of foul play, and the insurance adjuster, Scott Enlow, saw nothing unusual. By April 1996 financial difficulties forced them to abandon it.

Firefighters found Leonard dead on the living room couch, partly covered by a blanket. The autopsy found carbon monoxide poisoning from smoke inhalation and therapeutic doses of the sedatives Benadryl and codeine.

A few days later Joe Yuribe of the Criminal Investigation Bureau of the Montana Department of Justice was asked by the Judith Basin County sheriff to investigate. Investigators found an empty bottle of sedative drugs and a battery-operated smoke alarm in the hallway with no battery; the only other alarm was inside a closed kitchen cabinet at the opposite end of the trailer. The next day a search of her home in Great Falls found the six policies, premium bills and property she had told the insurer was dested.

The state's theory was that gambling and business losses left her short of money, so she insured Leonard's life, sedated him and burned the trailer with him in it to collect. Six fire experts said the fire started in the third bedroom, a storage room, in a collection of newspapers; several said the cause was incendiary rather than accidental.

She then went through a series of lawyers. Judge Lauren Tucker ordered her to court, found her excuses wanting and noted that Drew had exhausted her credibility.

The case

Murder of Leonard These

Victims

Leonard These (90). Fay's husband and stepfather, retired, with Alzheimer's disease and dementia

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 20 September 2018.

Accused

Accused

Accused

Outcome

Other people

Fay These. Leonard's wife and mother, who stayed in the nursing home
Margaret De Stat. sister, who held power of attorney over Fay
Scott Enlow. insurance claims adjuster for the Great Falls trailer
Joe Yuribe. investigator with the Criminal Investigation Bureau of the Montana Department of Justice

The timeline

  1. the 1930s Fay has three children, Margaret, and about 0:37:13
  2. 1934 is bornabout 0:37:42
  3. 1961 Fay remarriesabout 0:38:15
  4. 1988 Fay and Leonard buy a trailer in Great Falls, Montana (Fay and Leonard's trailer, Great Falls)about 0:43:20
  5. Both Fay and Leonard develop Alzheimer's disease and dementiaabout 0:44:23
  6. about 1993 They can no longer care for themselves; Margaret and take power of attorney over Fay and over Leonardabout 0:49:25
  7. November 1993 Fay and Leonard are moved into a nursing home in Great Falls (Great Falls nursing home)about 0:50:05
  8. shortly after Leonard leaves the nursing home and returns to the trailer, with as his guardian (Fay and Leonard's trailer, Great Falls)about 0:53:05
  9. February 1990 transfers Fay's interest in the trailer to , and transfers Leonard's interest (Fay and Leonard's trailer, Great Falls)about 0:53:55
  10. a week later The Great Falls trailer burns to the ground and the insurance pays out (Fay and Leonard's trailer, Great Falls)about 0:54:51
  11. The Great Falls Fire Department finds no cause and no evidence of foul playabout 0:55:46
  12. a few months later , Leonard, and son Tom Martin form Sundown Inc. to buy and run a bar and restaurant in Stanford (Sundown Inn, Stanford)about 0:56:43
  13. April 1996 Financial difficulties force them to abandon the Sundown Inn (Sundown Inn, Stanford)about 1:00:49
  14. July 1996 takes a lump sum distribution of Leonard's remaining pension, $38,000about 1:02:35
  15. between July and October 1996 Six life insurance policies are taken out on Leonard's life, with forging his signatureabout 1:05:16
  16. September 1996 and Leonard move back to Great Falls, making trips to take things out of the Stanford trailer (Great Falls)about 1:06:59
  17. October 16, 1996 and Leonard drive to Stanford to do laundry, have lunch and go to a bar; takes a chair and loses about $1,200 gambling, and they return to the trailer about 8:30 p.m. (Stanford)about 1:08:10
  18. October 16, 1996, about 11:30 p.m. Leonard goes to bed in his room, as later says (Stanford trailer)about 1:21:35
  19. October 17, 1996, about 2:30 a.m. says she falls asleep and is woken shortly after by a smoke alarm; she climbs out of the bedroom window and calls 911 at 3:40 a.m. (Stanford trailer)about 1:22:03
  20. October 17, 1996 Firefighters find Leonard's body on the living room couch, partly covered by a blanket (Stanford trailer)about 1:25:33

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