FILE 348 / 24 December 2022 / 69 MIN / express

The Undercover Idiot

Cortez, ColoradoListen

The town

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We're going all the way to Cortez, Colorado; it's in southwestern Colorado near Four Corners. about 0:02:39

History, in brief

1866

Built in 1866 to provide housing for men working on the tunnels and irrigation ditches that diverted water out of the Dolores River into the Montezuma Valley.

about 0:03:53

Town note

About seven hours from Denver and roughly six hours from Phoenix and Albuquerque, near Wolf Creek Pass.

about 0:03:02

1959

On August 3rd, 1959 a U-2 reconnaissance plane made a forced night landing at Cortez Municipal Airport after its engine flamed out at 70,000 feet; the flight had started at Laughlin Air Force Base in Texas and the pilot did not know the airport was there, aiming for its lighted runway.

about 0:05:47
All 3 history facts

1866

Built in 1866 to provide housing for men working on the tunnels and irrigation ditches that diverted water out of the Dolores River into the Montezuma Valley.

about 0:03:53

Town note

About seven hours from Denver and roughly six hours from Phoenix and Albuquerque, near Wolf Creek Pass.

about 0:03:02

1959

On August 3rd, 1959 a U-2 reconnaissance plane made a forced night landing at Cortez Municipal Airport after its engine flamed out at 70,000 feet; the flight had started at Laughlin Air Force Base in Texas and the pilot did not know the airport was there, aiming for its lighted runway.

about 0:05:47

The figures, as told

Money

Median home value$227,500
Median household incomeabout $39,141 a year
All figures and comparisons, as told in 2022

Population

"8,734"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:03:24

Median household income

"about $39,141 a year"

Comparison: "lower than the national average". Direction: below.

As told in 2022 about 0:03:36

Median home price

"$227,500"

Comparison: "lower than the national average". Direction: below.

As told in 2022 about 0:03:41

The reviews

3.3 / 5 · average of 4

5 stars

“Growing up in Cortez was a great experience and the reviewer wants to stay for education, a career and a family, but sees a need for job opportunities, business growth and public housing.”
about 0:06:52

4 stars

“Lived here 16 years; a beautiful place where half an hour one way is desert and another way mountains, small but with everything needed day to day; Durango is 35 miles away and some people commute, but there is not much well paid employment and many retirees live out their John Denver dreams.”
about 0:07:50

3 stars

“Extremely safe with nice, welcoming people and okay weather, but little to do, few doctors and even fewer good ones, a horribly dirty hospital and an unprofessional police department; the reviewer was harassed twice in two weeks, including over a dog leash at Denny Park, and plans to move.”
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1 star

“The worst place the reviewer has lived in 18 US states: nothing of value, poor schools, undereducated people, beer and ATVs as the main activity, no good restaurants, culture or shopping, expensive groceries and fuel, and unreliable repairs and medical care.”
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The story

Cortez sits in Montezuma County in south-western Colorado, near Four Corners and seven hours' drive from Denver.

Lawrence Rignall Robinson Sr, known to everyone as Big Larry, was 36. He lived on a hill outside Cortez, on land overlooking juniper and sagebrush, in an eight-sided house he had built himself. His son, Lawrence Rignall Robinson Jr, known as Little Larry, was 17 and lived with him, Big Larry having divorced several years earlier. A third man, Lawrence Hogan, 37, also stayed in the house. Fish came from a well-off Cortez family; his father Byron owned a construction company that did municipal work.

Big Larry was widely liked but was believed to deal in narcotics and dangerous drugs, and the sheriff's department had opened an investigation. The plan was for Fish to introduce an undercover officer, Bill McCash, to Big Larry so that McCash could buy drugs. Officer Jim Kindle told Fish that in a way he was working for them. Fish began carrying a .22 pistol after McCash warned him that things could get dangerous and told him to keep a gun handy, and on 5 January 1982 Kindle again encouraged him.

At 4.11 a.m. on 11 January 1982 Fish telephoned the justice building switchboard in Cortez and asked for officers and an ambulance, saying there had been shots fired and some people killed. He could not give the address, though he had lived there for a year, and at 4.17 he called back to describe the house, the octagonal one on the hill. Officer Brent Powell arrived at 4.21. He found Fish doubled over and breathing hard, and was directed to a bedroom where Big Larry lay in bed, shot in the head with a .22 and with a weak pulse. He died of the wound. In another bedroom were the bodies of Little Larry and of Fish's younger brother, Joseph Albert 'Bert' Fish, 17. Little Larry had been shot with both a pistol and a shotgun and showed signs of a struggle. Bert's death was never explained.

He was then taken to hospital for a blood sample. He was not read his rights until 6.15 a.m. At 7.30 Sergeant Chafin and Sheriff John Glazner interviewed him in a secretary's office in the basement of the justice building, recording on a primary and a backup machine; the backup captured more than the primary. Fish had asked whether he needed an attorney, and he later said one or both officers told him he did not. He talked freely because he believed he was still working undercover for the sheriff.

The prosecution's theory was that the Fish brothers had gone to the house to rob the Robinsons of drugs and money. Fish said the Robinsons had learned he was working with the sheriff and that he fired in self-defence after they killed his brother.

The second statement should have been suppressed as well, so a retrial was ordered without his statements.

The case

Murders of Lawrence Robinson Sr, Lawrence Robinson Jr and Bert Fish

Victims

Lawrence Rignall Robinson Sr (36). known as Big Larry; lived in the octagonal house and was suspected of dealing drugs
Lawrence Rignall Robinson Jr (17). known as Little Larry; Big Larry's son, lived in the house
Joseph Albert 'Bert' Fish (17). Fish's younger brother; his death was treated as an accident and nobody was charged with it

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 24 December 2022.

Accused

Outcome

Other people

Byron Fish. Fish's father, who owned a construction company in Cortez
Stan Chafin. sergeant who ran Fish as an informant and interrogated him
John Glazner. sheriff who interviewed Fish with Chafin
Bill McCash. undercover officer introduced to Big Larry by Fish
Jim Kindle. officer who told Fish that in a way he was working for the sheriff
Brent Powell. officer first on the scene
Ronald Barker. officer who took the hand swabs and read Fish his rights
Bob Gilpin. Big Larry's neighbour, who said he knew nothing of drugs
Marilyn Nelson. waitress at a Cortez restaurant where Fish had applied for a dishwashing job

The timeline

  1. early 1981 Fish, then 18, moves into the octagonal house and lives there about a year (Octagonal house)about 0:21:33
  2. before January 5, 1982 Fish introduces undercover officer Bill McCash to Big Larry and some drug purchases are made (Octagonal house)about 0:29:27
  3. January 5, 1982 Officer Jim Kindle tells Fish that in a way he is working for the sheriff (Cortez)about 0:30:12
  4. the previous Friday Fish applies for a dishwashing job at a Cortez restaurant (Cortez)about 0:55:14
  5. January 11, 1982, 4:11 a.m. Fish calls the justice building switchboard reporting shots fired and some people killed, asking for officers and an ambulance (Montezuma County Justice Building)about 0:32:05

Places and phrases

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