FILE 241 / 16 September 2021 / 148 MIN / full

The Murdered Murderer Murders

Rutland, VermontListen

The town

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James says the town is Rutland, in Rutland County, area code 802, about seven and a half square miles. about 0:07:04

History, in brief

Town note

Started as a small hamlet called Mill Village, on Otter Creek, in the early 1800s.

about 0:08:03

1761

Named by Governor Benning Wentworth in 1761 and renamed Rutland after John Manners, the third Duke of Rutland.

about 0:08:10

Town note

High-quality marble deposits were discovered in the early 1800s.

about 0:08:56

Town note

In the 1830s a huge deposit of nearly solid marble was found in West Rutland.

about 0:09:05
All 15 history facts

Town note

Started as a small hamlet called Mill Village, on Otter Creek, in the early 1800s.

about 0:08:03

1761

Named by Governor Benning Wentworth in 1761 and renamed Rutland after John Manners, the third Duke of Rutland.

about 0:08:10

Town note

High-quality marble deposits were discovered in the early 1800s.

about 0:08:56

Town note

In the 1830s a huge deposit of nearly solid marble was found in West Rutland.

about 0:09:05

1840

By 1840 people had started excavating the marble.

about 0:09:14

1851

The railroad arrived in 1851, which made it possible to move the marble out.

about 0:09:19

Town note

Rutland became one of the world's top marble-producing areas.

about 0:09:51

Town note

Italian marble workers were brought over with their families, creating a large Italian population.

about 0:09:58

Town note

The quarries closed in the 1980s and 1990s, taking away many local jobs.

about 0:10:36

Town note

There are 108 buildings in the downtown area listed on the National Register of Historic Places, many dating to the mid-1800s.

about 0:10:54

1895

Rutland was one of the few towns not destroyed by the 1895 fire that burned many other towns.

about 0:11:06

1960

The Rutland Halloween parade has taken place since 1960.

about 0:23:23

Town note

Local writer Tom Fagan helped give the parade its superhero theme.

about 0:23:44

1965

In 1965 the Joker, Plastic Man and Dr. Strange were roaming the streets of Rutland along with Batman, according to the Boston Globe.

about 0:24:16

1970

Five thousand spectators watched the 1970 Halloween parade.

about 0:24:31

The figures, as told

Religious

38%

Biggest faith: Catholic residents, 25%

about 0:17:38

Who lives here

White 93.8% · Black 1.3% · Asian 2.1% · Hispanic 1.7%

Ethnicity can overlap race.

Crime / national average

Property crime
▲ about 50% high

about 0:25:08

Violent crime
▼ about 20% lower

about 0:25:31

Money

Median home value$209,500
Two-bedroom rentabout $933
Median household income$42,861
Cost of living83

For sale

$29,900

Four-bedroom, two-bath house, 1,752 square feet

about 0:20:49

For sale

$142,500

Three-bedroom, one-bath house, 1,248 square feet

about 0:21:13

For sale

$1,595,000

Five-bedroom, five-bath house, 8,640 square feet on ten acres

about 0:21:48
All figures and comparisons, as told in 2021

Property crime

"about 50% high"

Direction: above.

As told in 2021 about 0:25:08

Violent crime

"about 20% lower"

Comparison: "national average". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:25:31

Population in 1970

"19,300"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:15:42

Population

"14,914"

Comparison: "down about 18% since 1990". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:15:49

Median age

"about 43 and a half"

Comparison: "about six years over the national average". Direction: above.

As told in 2021 about 0:16:02

White residents

"93.8%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:06

Black residents

"1.3%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:06

Asian residents

"2.1%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:06

Hispanic residents

"1.7%"

Comparison: "normally 17%, about 10% of what there usually is". No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:06

Religious residents

"38%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:38

Catholic residents

"25%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:45

Jewish residents

"0.2%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:55

Median household income

"$42,861"

Comparison: "about $15,000 under the national average". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:18:40

Cost of living

"83"

Comparison: "100 is the regular average". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:18:58

Housing cost index

"59.6"

Comparison: "100 is the regular average". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:19:06

Median home cost

"$209,500"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:19:09

Most house prices

"between $100,000 and $250,000"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:19:16

Average two-bedroom rental

"about $933"

Comparison: "lower than the national average". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:19:52

Four-bedroom, two-bath house, 1,752 square feet

"$29,900"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:20:49

Three-bedroom, one-bath house, 1,248 square feet

"$142,500"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:21:13

Five-bedroom, five-bath house, 8,640 square feet on ten acres

"$1,595,000"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:21:48

The reviews

2.4 / 5 · average of 5

5 stars

“Amazing and beautiful; surrounded by mountains and forests full of animals and nature; the city is small but people's hearts are big.”
about 0:11:42

3 stars

“Grew up there and has been there over fifty years; great sense of community but a serious decline in businesses, jobs and activities; fairly safe and not a bad place to raise children.”
about 0:12:12

2 stars

“You could get robbed by three guys who are robbing each other at the same time, but it is not the worst; the school was all right but the people are not; complains about a traffic light by the Catholic school that turns red and never green.”
about 0:12:37

1 star

“By far the worst place the reviewer has ever lived; too expensive for how bad it is, rude people, very little to do and drug addicts all over town; would not come here to visit.”
about 0:14:22

1 star

“Housing availability is nil, especially pet-friendly housing; not enough industry, decent-paying jobs or convenient shopping.”
about 0:15:12

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The story

Shortly after ten-thirty on the night of 3 July 1971, a New Jersey man named Charles Hoover was driving his family home to their camp near Killington, Vermont, when he saw a fire beside a dirt road. The clothes had mostly burned away. The man was lying on his side, head uphill and feet downhill. Hoover threw water on the body. Police and crime-scene specialists from Montpelier arrived, and the body was taken away by ambulance at three the next morning.

The dead man had been shot several times with a shotgun and then set alight. Blood had soaked into the ground near the road, suggesting that he was attacked there and did not die quickly. Investigators first thought there had been two blasts to the neck, then found more wounds to the chest, shoulder and right arm. Eventually they believed he had been shot four or five times, some at close range and some from six to eight feet. No weapon was found. Soil samples were taken to test for accelerant.

The body was carrying a wallet and a shirt label. Partly burned cheques bore the name Rogers and part of a street address, and a label sewn inside the shirt read Ronald Rogers. On the right arm was a Marine Corps tattoo with the words Semper Fi. The police asked the Rutland Police Department for descriptions of missing people, and a patrolman named Edwin Hall came forward because he thought the body might be his nephew. Hall, a corporal and the man who had raised Rogers after his mother died, identified the body from the tattoo, its general size, a scar and marks from tumour removals. He said he had no doubt at all that the body was Ronnie.

Ronald A. Rogers was thirty-four, born in 1937, an unemployed ski-lift operator and carpenter who had served in both the navy and the marines and was a veteran of the Korean conflict. His mother died when he was six and he went to live with his uncle. Rogers was described as a loner who read serious books, argued politics in bars and could provoke drinking companions to anger; the episode says he had at times supported Nazi beliefs. He had two failed marriages and two daughters. In 1968 his second wife filed for divorce citing intolerable severity.

He lived with Joan Crandall, who took his name though they were not formally married, and they had two children.

For three years the case went nowhere. Rogers had been seen in several bars at the same time on the day he died, so the police could not establish a clear timeline. A waitress, Virginia Page, said he had eaten a hot turkey sandwich and drunk a glass of milk at about six-thirty that evening, hours before his body was found, but the autopsy reported corned beef and raw carrots in his stomach. The autopsy also found a spleen, although Rogers's medical records showed that his had been removed in 1961. There were no fingerprints, blood tests or dental comparisons; the identification rested on his uncle.

She had originally given him an alibi, she said, because he asked her to, but the burden had become too great.

The state's case rested on Joan's testimony, Hall's identification, the shirt label and the burned cheques. The defence argued that the body might not be Rogers at all. The defence also produced medical evidence that the spleen was too large and the wrong shape to be an accessory spleen.

On 15 March 1978 a new report emerged. Johnson had known Rogers for ten years and worked with him at Pico Peak Ski Area. He had also telephoned the prosecutor, who never returned the call.

On Christmas Eve 1978 the body was exhumed at the request of the state's attorney. Officials, police, the defence team and the judge watched as the casket was pulled up. The teeth were still there, and dental records confirmed that the body was Ronald A. Rogers.

The county attorney said the reduction was because Joan had left Vermont and refused to return to testify, leaving no physical evidence against him.

Rogers's death is still attributed to him, but the episode notes that the case against him rested on Joan's word and that the only thing known for certain is that Ronald A. Rogers was murdered.

The case

Murder of Ronald A. Rogers

Victims

Ronald A. Rogers (34). Unemployed ski lift operator and carpenter; Korean War veteran; described as a loner who read serious books, argued politics in bars and could provoke drinking companions to anger.

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 16 September 2021.

Accused

Outcome

Other people

Edwin Hall. Rogers's uncle, a corporal in the Rutland Police Department, who identified the body
Marilyn Perkins. Operated the Rutland Taxi Service with her husband Frank and said was at her house near the Ames store
Nancy Barker. Rogers's cousin, who testified that Rogers had planned to kill a lookalike and disappear
Charles Hoover. New Jersey man who found the burning body while driving his family home
Beverly Williams. Berwick Hotel desk clerk who described Rogers as quiet, sober and always alone
Virginia H. Page. Waitress who served Rogers a hot turkey sandwich and a glass of milk shortly before his death
Stephen Bannigan. Man stopped by police near the scene with two other people
John Lacardy. Prosecutor in case who later became a defence lawyer and was criticised in letters
Sydney and Aina Rogers. Rogers's parents, lifelong Rutland residents
Frank Perkins. Marilyn Perkins's husband and co-operator of the Rutland Taxi Service

The timeline

  1. 1937 Ronald A. Rogers is born.about 0:40:18
  2. 1943 Rogers's mother dies when he is six; he goes to live with his uncle Edwin Hall.about 0:54:04
  3. 1961 Rogers has his spleen removed.about 1:27:41
  4. 1964 Rogers marries his second wife.about 0:57:52
  5. 1968 Rogers's wife files for divorce on the grounds of intolerable severity.about 0:57:25
  6. June 2, 1971 Rogers checks into the Berwick Hotel, where he stays until June 17. (Berwick Hotel)about 1:03:40
  7. July 3, 1971 The prosecution says picks Rogers up at about 5:30 pm.about 1:19:14
  8. July 3, 1971 and Rogers spend two hours at the Amber Clown Bar; a bartender says Rogers is too nervous to write a cheque. (Amber Clown Bar)about 1:19:33
  9. July 3, 1971 Rogers is seen at the Center Street bar and other bars during the afternoon. (Center Street bar)about 0:42:33
  10. July 3, 1971 At about 6:30 pm Rogers eats a hot turkey sandwich and a glass of milk at a diner.about 1:26:26
  11. July 3, 1971 is alleged to have taken Rogers to Roaring Brook Road and shot him several times. (Roaring Brook Road)about 1:28:33

Last meals

  • Ronald A. Rogers. a hot turkey sandwich and a glass of milk eaten at a diner at about 6:30 pm, roughly four hours before his body was foundabout 1:25:27
  • Ronald A. Rogers. corned beef and thin raw strips of carrots stomach contents at autopsyabout 1:27:04

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