FILE 249 / 11 November 2021 / 174 MIN / full

The Self Pitying Serial Killer

Moose Lake, MinnesotaListen

The town

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We are going to Moose Lake, Minnesota, in eastern Minnesota, kind of right on the border of Wisconsin, in Carleton County, about three and a half square miles. about 0:05:39

History, in brief

1918

On October 10th, 1918, two men working near a railroad siding north-west of Cloquet saw a passenger train pass and then saw fire burning through grass and wood piles; it could not be contained.

about 0:10:16

Town note

Two days later the fire was still burning and spreading throughout northern Minnesota; it was called the Cloquet fire but was really more than fifty fires.

about 0:10:34

Town note

The Moose Lake fire was at least five fires that came together.

about 0:10:59

Town note

The blaze neared Moose Lake about 7.30 and people had to be taken out by train to rescue them.

about 0:11:09
All 10 history facts

1918

On October 10th, 1918, two men working near a railroad siding north-west of Cloquet saw a passenger train pass and then saw fire burning through grass and wood piles; it could not be contained.

about 0:10:16

Town note

Two days later the fire was still burning and spreading throughout northern Minnesota; it was called the Cloquet fire but was really more than fifty fires.

about 0:10:34

Town note

The Moose Lake fire was at least five fires that came together.

about 0:10:59

Town note

The blaze neared Moose Lake about 7.30 and people had to be taken out by train to rescue them.

about 0:11:09

Town note

Most survived, and many of those left behind simply went into the lake.

about 0:11:17

Town note

In Moose Lake they saw seventy-five bodies piled in a burned building.

about 0:12:28

Town note

Seventy-five people died on one road leading out of Moose Lake; the New York Times said a hundred bodies were strewn here and there.

about 0:12:36

Town note

The Duluth Country Club and Children's Home were both completely burned down, along with all sorts of hotels.

about 0:12:58

Town note

Pretty much all of Moose Lake was destroyed, burned to the ground, and the surrounding area was deforested.

about 0:13:06

Town note

One of Minnesota's two sex offender facilities is in Moose Lake.

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The figures, as told

Religious

46%

Biggest faith: Jewish, 0.0%

about 0:18:17

Who lives here

White about 76% · Black 9% · Asian 0.1% · Hispanic 3.5%

Ethnicity can overlap race.

Crime / national average

Property crime
▲ about 20% high

about 0:25:49

Violent crime
▲ about the same amount high

about 0:26:06

Money

Median home value$188,500
Two-bedroom rent$924
Median household income$37,000
Cost of living84

For sale

$99,900

One-bedroom, two-bath house in Sturgeon Lake, 1,440 square feet on 1.6 acres

about 0:21:33

For sale

$199,900

Three-bedroom, two-bath house, 1,661 square feet

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All figures and comparisons, as told in 2021

Population

"2,790"

Comparison: "up twenty-five per cent since 2000". Direction: above.

As told in 2021 about 0:15:47

Male

"71%"

Comparison: "50-50 is the normal". No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:16:14

Female

"28%"

Comparison: "50-50 is the normal". No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:16:17

Median age

"47"

Comparison: "about 10 years older than the national average". Direction: above.

As told in 2021 about 0:16:55

Married population

"27%"

Comparison: "about half the usual ratio". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:17

Divorce rate

"double"

Comparison: "the national average". Direction: above.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:30

Single with no children

"4%"

Comparison: "low". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:49

White

"about 76%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:59

Black

"9%"

Comparison: "more than expected". Direction: above.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:59

Asian

"0.1%"

Comparison: "really low". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:17:59

Religious

"46%"

Comparison: "50-50 is the normal". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:18:17

Democrat

"49.6%"

Comparison: "last election". No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:18:17

Republican

"48.1%"

Comparison: "last election". No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:18:17

Independent

"2.4%"

Comparison: "last election". No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:18:47

Unemployment rate

"about average"

Comparison: "a little lower than the average". Direction: about the same.

As told in 2021 about 0:19:01

Household income

"$37,000"

Comparison: "$57,000 in the rest of the country". No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:19:09

Jobs in healthcare

"25%"

Comparison: "more than double what it usually is". Direction: above.

As told in 2021 about 0:19:17

Cost of living

"84"

Comparison: "100 is average". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:19:33

Housing cost

"66"

Comparison: "100 is average". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:19:40

Median home cost

"$188,500"

Comparison: "very low compared to the rest of the country". Direction: below.

As told in 2021 about 0:19:42

Average two-bedroom rent

"$924"

Comparison: "kind of in line". No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:20:06

14-acre lake lot

"$99,900"

No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:20:37

One-bedroom, two-bath house in Sturgeon Lake, 1,440 square feet on 1.6 acres

"$99,900"

Comparison: "same price as the lot". No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:21:33

Three-bedroom, two-bath house, 1,661 square feet

"$199,900"

Comparison: "pretty good compared to the rest of the country". No direction stated.

As told in 2021 about 0:22:05

Property crime

"about 20% high"

Comparison: "the national average". Direction: above.

As told in 2021 about 0:25:49

Violent crime

"about the same amount high"

Comparison: "the national average". Direction: above.

As told in 2021 about 0:26:06

The reviews

3.5 / 5 · average of 4

4 stars

“Likes the small-town community, the variety of small shops and small-town treasures such as the old movie theatre, brewery and coffee shop.”
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4 stars

“People are always super friendly and there are many community events in summer, but the city council should be more lenient about letting new businesses move in.”
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3 stars

“There are some good small-town jobs but nothing that draws people in or offers a truly competitive wage.”
about 0:14:21

3 stars

“Almost entirely mom and pop shops making good homemade food, lacking quality shopping venues but covering most day-to-day needs.”
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The story

In May 1999 Katy Poirier was nineteen and living at Barnum, Minnesota, with her family near Little Hanging Horn Lake. She had just finished her first year at Fond du Lac Community College in Carlton and wanted to go into law enforcement, partly because she loved the television show The Profiler. She had been runner-up in the 1997 Miss Barnum contest, she water-skied, she was a Packers fan, and she had two golden retrievers, Goldie and Riley. She was engaged to Mark Johnson Jr, whom she had met at the college, and the two of them planned to become conservation officers or game wardens, perhaps in Montana or Wyoming once they had married and graduated. On the night of 26 May 1999 she was working alone on the late shift at DJ's Expressway, a small convenience store beside Interstate 35 on the outskirts of Moose Lake.

At 11.38 that night the store camera showed a man walking in, and then showed him walking Katy out from behind the counter with his hand on the back of her neck; investigators thought he might have had a cord round her throat, holding it like a lead. The man was white, about five feet eleven and 170 pounds, wearing a dark New York Yankees jersey with the number 23 on the back, Don Mattingly's number. Her checkbook and car keys were left behind. Shortly after midnight a passer-by called the police to say there was nobody in the store, with the lights on and the doors open, and within an hour officers had watched the tape.

Catherine Hannick, who had been working at the Subway sandwich shop next door, connected to the store by an internal door, told police that shortly before she closed at ten o'clock she had seen a man behaving strangely around the Subway, and that as she drove home towards downtown Moose Lake she found herself behind him as he left the convenience store property. He was driving a black Ford F150 extended cab pickup with white markings on the side, and she had got part of the plate: 557, and a final Y. She watched the truck weave, pull into the car park of a local cafe, and that was the last she saw of it. Katy's own car was still at the store.

The Poyer family were told at 2.30 in the morning; her fiancé came over, and by six the family were at Moose Lake searching. Within two days Governor Jesse Ventura had activated the National Guard, tracking dogs and helicopters were out, billboards asking where Katy was went up, a $25,000 reward was offered, and the case went on America's Most Wanted. None of it produced anything. On 6 June, ten days after the abduction, the search was called off. The family kept a headquarters going at the Moose Lake church, with maps and crosses on the wall, and the baseball player Paul Molitor recorded a public service announcement to keep the case in the public eye.

He owned a property twelve miles from the store. On 19 June police carried out a twelve-hour search there and found bone fragments and part of a jawbone in the fire pit, and a human tooth.

He said he had gone fishing that day, driven home to Richfield, then gone back to the Moose Lake property, stopping for liquor and a beer; that he had seen Katy working in the store, made a grab for her, chased her outside, forced her into his pickup and driven her to his trailer. He said he choked her from behind for about twenty minutes, then put her in a foetal position in the fire pit and burned her with wood and paper. He denied sexual assault, though he said he might have been thinking about it, and he accepted that the bones in the pit were Katy's. Forensic scientists found petrol residue in the pit.

Police had eliminated him after following some 300 leads.

The dental evidence was the heart of the state's case: two dentists testified about fillings in Katy's lower left second molar, tooth number 18, the second placed on 12 May 1999, two weeks before the abduction, using a 3M bonding product first shipped in March 1999, and forensic dentists testified that the recovered tooth was a number 18 with matching material.

In 2006 he wrote to a Bloomington police sergeant saying it was time to talk, and was moved closer to his family in exchange, but gave them nothing over three days. In 2007 the Minnesota Supreme Court denied his third petition for a new evidentiary hearing. He was held in Pennsylvania and transferred back to Minnesota in 2017, and is in his seventies.

The case

Murder of Katy Poirier

Victims

Katy Poirier (19). community college student from Barnum, working alone on the late shift; runner-up in the 1997 Miss Barnum contest, planning a career in law enforcement

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 11 November 2021.

Accused

Outcome

Other people

Darrell Brown. co-worker at the Minnesota Veterans Home who called the tip line
Catherine Hannick. Subway worker who saw the man casing the store and identified in a lineup
Mark Johnson Jr.. Katy's fiancé, a fellow student
Patrick Poyer. Katy's brother
Rodney Broden. defence attorney
Dr. Ann Norlander. board certified forensic dental expert who examined the tooth
Jesse Ventura. Minnesota governor, who activated the National Guard
Paul Molitor. Hall of Fame baseball player who recorded a public service announcement

The timeline

  1. 1949 Pince, later , is bornabout 1:03:54
  2. 1970 He marries Debra, aged twenty-oneabout 1:06:21
  3. 1973 He and Debra divorceabout 1:06:52
  4. 1975 Aged twenty-six he kidnaps a fourteen-year-old girl, gags her, molests her and locks her in the boot of his car; she escapes and turns him inabout 1:06:57
  5. about three years later He commits an aggravated assaultabout 1:08:49
  6. 1983 He pulls a knife on two girls aged fifteen and sixteen who gave him a lift, marches them into the woods, ties and gags them and tries to rape them; they escape during a chokingabout 1:10:05
  7. May 26, 1999, about 10 p.m. Catherine Hannick sees a man behaving strangely around the Subway and then drives behind his black Ford F150 as he leaves the convenience store property (Subway sandwich store)about 0:39:37
  8. May 26, 1999, 11.38 p.m. A man is filmed walking Katy Poirier out of the store with his hand on the back of her neck (DJ's Expressway)about 0:28:06
  9. shortly after midnight, May 27, 1999 A passer-by calls police to report nobody in the store; officers find it open and empty and view the tape (DJ's Expressway)about 0:36:01
  10. May 27, 1999, 2.30 a.m. The Poyer family are told their daughter is missing; her fiancé comes over and then the family drives to Moose Lake, arriving by sixabout 0:41:44
  11. within two days of the abduction Governor Jesse Ventura activates the National Guard; tracking dogs, helicopters, posters, billboards and a $25,000 reward follow (Moose Lake)about 0:45:24
  12. May 28, 1999 A neighbour asks where his truck is; says the transmission is broken and it is at his brother's garage (Richfield)about 1:19:29
  13. May 29, 1999 has his hair cut and dyedabout 1:18:34
  14. May 31, 1999 resigns from his janitor's job at the Minnesota Veterans Home (Minnesota Veterans Home)about 1:18:09
  15. June 6, 1999 After ten days the search is called off for lack of leads (Moose Lake)about 0:50:47
  16. June 18, 1999 Darrell Brown calls the tip line about his co-worker Hutchinson (Minnesota Veterans Home)about 0:54:16
  17. June 19, 1999 Police carry out a twelve-hour search of property and find bone fragments, part of a jawbone and a human tooth in the fire pit ( property)about 0:59:18
  18. July 1, 1999 Authorities release details of the bones, tooth, hoop earring, chainsaw with blue fibres, hair and condoms found on the property ( property)about 1:02:57
  19. August 29, 1999 Two men find bones in a shallow pit in Carlton County; investigators determine they are a bear'sabout 1:23:33
  20. 2006 writes to a Bloomington police sergeant saying it is time to talk, then gives nothing over three daysabout 2:37:20
  21. 2007 The Minnesota Supreme Court denies his third petition for a new evidentiary hearingabout 2:39:09
  22. 2015 Two students are awarded the Katy Poirier Law Enforcement Scholarship (Fond du Lac Tribal and Community College)about 2:39:49

Murder of Wilma Jean Johnson

Victims

Wilma Jean Johnson (44). transient woman found strangled and beaten, wearing only men's socks, one black and one grey

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 11 November 2021.

Accused

Outcome

Other people

St. Paul police officer. veteran officer who recognised name and reconnected him to the case

The timeline

  1. 1983 Wilma Jean Johnson, 44, is found strangled and beaten near the cathedral shortly before 7 a.m., wearing only men's socks (St Paul Cathedral)about 1:44:19

Murder of Holly Spangler

Victims

Holly Spangler (19). student from Bloomington, found stabbed to death in a city park five days after she went missing from a party

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 11 November 2021.

Accused

Outcome

Other people

29-year-old suspect. man with blood on his shoes who was tested and cleared when the blood proved to be his own

The timeline

  1. 1993 Holly Spangler, 19, fails to return from a party and her roommates report her missingabout 1:51:25
  2. five days after she went missing, 1993 Search dogs and officers find her body in Bloomington Central Park after a tip about her car near the parking lot (Bloomington Central Park)about 1:51:33

Murder of Callie Jo Larson

Victims

Callie Jo Larson (12). raped and stabbed to death, found hung upside down

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 11 November 2021.

Accused

Outcome

The timeline

  1. April 1999 Callie Jo Larson, 12, is raped and stabbed to deathabout 1:45:41

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