FILE 272 / 9 April 2022 / 61 MIN / express

Groundhog For Breakfast

Elizabeth, West VirginiaListen

The town

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This is Elizabeth, West Virginia, in northwestern West Virginia in the Panhandle part of the state. about 0:03:38

History, in brief

Town note

James says the town was named after the queen.

about 0:03:46

Town note

The town sits in a holler, a small valley between two hills, with nothing around it for a while.

about 0:04:26
All 2 history facts

Town note

James says the town was named after the queen.

about 0:03:46

Town note

The town sits in a holler, a small valley between two hills, with nothing around it for a while.

about 0:04:26

The figures, as told

Money

Median home value$53,500
Median household income$19,973
Cost of living74 out of 100
All figures and comparisons, as told in 2022

Population change

"down 30% since 2000"

Direction: below.

As told in 2022 about 0:05:10

Unemployment rate

"almost 10%"

Comparison: "about 3% in the rest of the country". No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:05:22

Median household income

"$19,973"

Comparison: "$57,500 in the rest of the country". No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:05:53

Share of households making $20,000 or less a year

"50%"

No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:06:06

Cost of living index

"74 out of 100"

Comparison: "100 being regular or average". Direction: below.

As told in 2022 about 0:07:11

Median home cost

"$53,500"

Comparison: "national average". No direction stated.

As told in 2022 about 0:07:17

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The story

In June 1980 the small town of Elizabeth, West Virginia, in the hills of the northern panhandle, was the setting for a day-long quarrel that turned into a running gunfight and a killing. Robert Andrew Williams, who called himself Robert Lilly or Bob Lilly, lived in a cabin off Oxbow Road in Ritchie County and made what money he could by collecting junk and hauling it to Parkersburg to sell. In March 1980 he met Austin Wayne Ledsom at Kyle's Tavern in Elizabeth, and the two became friends and partners in that scavenging trade.

On the night of Friday, 6 June 1980 Ledsom stayed at Lilly's house. The next morning the pair had groundhog for breakfast, then decided to take the day off from scrapping and go fishing. On the way out of the hollow they stopped at the cabin of a man named Red, who offered them a milk jug filled with grape juice and vodka. They drank it, drove into Elizabeth for more alcohol, and found a party in progress at a neighbour's house on Oxbow Road.

In the tavern car park Lilly called over a young woman named Glenda Roush and gave her a drink of the vodka and grape juice, now carried in an empty wine bottle. Lilly denied it and said he wanted no trouble. Lilly replied that they had big mouths and nothing to back it up. Glenda Roush briefly took the pistol and Lilly took it back.

Lilly and Ledsom drove back to Lilly's house, where his girlfriend Candice Rohey was at home. Lilly showed her the wound, searched the house, found a single round, loaded the pistol and fired it into the china cabinet.

Ledsom went in to buy shells and discovered that a petrol station does not sell ammunition. On Route 47 Ash weaved his truck across the road to stop them passing and Lilly rammed him from behind. Ash turned onto Oxbow Road but got stuck in the mud; by the time Lilly ran up the road on foot he had freed the truck and driven away. Lilly pulled the damaged bonnet off his own truck, threw it over the hill, and drove to McCauley's store, where Ledsom told the clerk not to sell Lilly any shells because someone might get hurt. At a friend's house Lilly obtained a box of .22 hollow-point rounds, loaded the pistol, test-fired it into a tree and set off again.

Glenda Roush saw him leave the tavern carrying the rifle and put it behind the seat of the truck. He calmed down, and he, Ash and Roush drove to Ash's house to drink and eat. They turned onto Oxbow Road and up the private road beside Glen Johnson's cabin, where they stopped and blocked the one-lane track. Lilly and Ledsom pulled in behind them.

What followed was a shootout at about twelve feet. Witnesses disagreed about who fired first: one heard the high-powered rifle first, another the smaller gun. Ash was wounded in the arm and got into the house. A shot through the windscreen struck Ledsom in the side of the head and he spilled the box of shells. Lilly, wounded, retreated down the hill. Lilly died of a bullet wound to the centre of the forehead, with further wounds to his left leg and left foot; the fatal wound was made from six to eight inches away, apparently by high-powered copper-jacketed ammunition.

The case

Murder of Robert 'Bob' Lilly

Victims

Robert Andrew Williams, known as Robert 'Bob' Lilly. Unemployed junk collector who lived in a cabin off Oxbow Road in Ritchie County; born name Robert Andrew Williams, he used the name Robert Lilly.

Accused and outcomes

As told in the episode, on 9 April 2022.

Accused

Outcome

Other people

Austin Wayne Ledsom. Lilly's friend and junk-hauling partner; present through the day, reloaded the pistol during the shootout and ran
Denver Ash. friend; wounded in the arm in the shootout; said himself that he fired the shot into Lilly's head
Glenda Roush. young woman at Smitty's Tavern; witness to the shooting
Candice Rohey. Lilly's girlfriend, at his house when he came back wounded
Glen Johnson. neighbour down the hill; telephoned and warned that Lilly was coming to kill
Red. man at a cabin down the road who gave the pair grape juice and vodka from a milk jug

The timeline

  1. March 1980 Austin Ledsom meets Robert 'Lilly' at Kyle's Tavern in Elizabeth (Kyle's Tavern)about 0:09:53
  2. March 1980 The two unemployed men become friends and agree to collect junk and haul it to Parkersburg to sell (Kyle's Tavern)about 0:10:46
  3. June 6, 1980 Ledsom spends Friday night at Lilly's house off Oxbow Road (Lilly house)about 0:14:32
  4. June 7, 1980 The pair have groundhog for breakfast and decide to go fishing instead of hauling junk (Lilly house)about 0:14:54
  5. June 7, 1980 They stop at Red's cabin and drink grape juice and vodka from a milk jug (Red's cabin)about 0:21:03
  6. June 7, 1980 They drive to Elizabeth for more drink and join a party at a neighbour's house on Oxbow Road (neighbour's house on Oxbow Road)about 0:22:54
  7. June 7, 1980 Denver Ash and arrive at the party, already drunk; falls down (neighbour's house on Oxbow Road)about 0:23:44
  8. June 7, 1980 Ash and leave the party and drive off in truck (neighbour's house on Oxbow Road)about 0:26:34
  9. June 7, 1980 Lilly and Ledsom take Red home and then head for Smitty's Tavern (Red's cabin)about 0:27:25
  10. June 7, 1980 At Smitty's Tavern, Lilly offers Glenda Roush a drink from a wine bottle filled with the vodka and grape juice (Smitty's Tavern)about 0:30:02
  11. June 7, 1980 accuses Lilly of putting acid in a spring; Ash accuses him of talking about him around town (Smitty's Tavern)about 0:31:31
  12. June 7, 1980 shoots Lilly with a .22 pistol, hitting him in the leg and backside (Smitty's Tavern)about 0:36:01
  13. June 7, 1980 Lilly takes the gun from , throws him down and beats him about the head with it, then knocks Ash out (Smitty's Tavern)about 0:37:12
  14. June 7, 1980 gets up and shouts that Lilly is a dead man if he comes up the hill (Smitty's Tavern)about 0:38:18

Last meals

  • Robert Andrew Williams, known as Robert 'Bob' Lilly. groundhog breakfast at his house on the morning he was killed, June 7, 1980about 0:14:54
  • Austin Wayne Ledsom. groundhog breakfast at Lilly's house on the morning of the shootingabout 0:14:54

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